1. Steven Hassan, Combatting Cult Mind Control
2. Steven Hassan, Releasing the Bonds
3. Margaret Singer & Janja Lalich, Cults in Our Midst (part 1, part 2, part 3)
4. Recovery from Cults: Help for Victims of Psychological and Spiritual Abuse, edited by Michael D. Langone (Post-cult Problems: An Exit Counselor's Perspective by Carol Giambalvo)
In some previous posts, I considered the possible harm of such symptom lists which is the possibility of suggestion of symptoms. So, in my opinion, it is necessary to to stress that not all the ex-members of cults have all these post-cult after effects.
Hassan did not write about this important point in his books, in his website, and did not say about it in his presentation in ex-Mormon conference in October 2008 (this video is available in YouTube). Actually, he paid much more attention to his symptom list than he did in his books. So, there is a possibility that people who watch it might gain these symptoms through induction.
However, Margaret Singer introduced her list of post-cult after affects in the following way:
Just as cults vary greatly, so do their members, their after-effects, and the duration of those effects. Yet those who help former cult members have seen certain patterns in the types of trauma, damage, and emotional and cognitive difficulties. This has been true for former members of a variety of cults and groups that use thought-reform processes.
Not everyone who is exposed to thought-reform processes is successfully manipulated, however; nor does everyone respond with major reactive symptoms. An evaluation of what a person may experience after belonging to a cult requires study of the group's particular practices, social and psychological pressures, and conditions.
Then, she continues:
Not all former cult members encounter all the problems listed on Table 12.1, nor do most have them in severe and extended form. Some individuals need only a few months to get themselves going again. After encountering some adjustment problems to life outside the cult, they make rather rapid and undeventful reintegrations into everyday life. Generally, however, it takes individuals anywhere from six to twenty-four months to get their lives functioning again at a level commensurate with their histories and talents. Even then, however, theat functioning may not reflect what is still going on insed them. Many are still sorting out the conflicts and harms that grew out their cult experience long after two years have gone by. Each former member wrestles with a number of problems. Some need more time than others to resolve all the issues they face, and a few never get their lives going again.
Here, she made clear that not all the ex-members have all the post-cult after effects and that everyone has a different experience. Also, there is an important difference between what Hassan and Singer include into their lists. Hassan's list mainly includes the points that can be considered symptoms of some disorders (dissociative disorder, PTSD, and so on). Singer's list includes many things that are not symptoms of psychiatric disorders such as practical, social-personal, and philosophical-attitudinal issues.
There is also another difference. Margaret Singer writes about five main areas of post-cult adjustment in order to help ex-members in their post-cult adjustment. She ends this chapter in the following way:
The discussion in this chapter does not cover the conflicts, turmoils and disturbing aftereffects that ex-cult members have struggled with. But it should help the reader begin to understand the breadth of the recovery from cult conditioning and cult experiences that must occur.
Coming out of the cult pseudo-personality is about reeducation and growth. Self-help through reading can be invaluable for those who live far from knowledgeable resources such as exit-counselors, cult information specialists, former member support groups, and mental health professionals.
So, her intention was to educate ex-members. Hassan has absolutely different purpose in posting his list as it is clear from his "Help for Oneself". His purpose is to convince ex-members of cults that they will not be able to recover without his counseling and he uses his list as a support for this idea. In other words, his purpose is not to help ex-members to recover by themselves, but to gain more clients who will pay him more money.
In Post-cult Problems: An Exit Counselor's Perspective, Carol Giambalvo writes:
Clients, especially walkaways and castaways, feel relieved when they learn that, given the situation, what they are experiencing is normal and that the effects will not last forever.
In my opinion, it is another benefit that can be gained from such lists of post-cult after effects and problems. When ex-members learn that other ex-members experience similar problems, that it is normal to experience these problems after leaving, and that these problems will not last forever, they feel relief.
So, in my opinion, lists of post-cult after effects, problems and symptoms may have two sides, and it depends on the way they are composed. The negative effects of such lists (they are true for Hassan's list):
1. Suggestion of symptoms because ex-members are not aware that they are not expected to experience all the symptoms.
2. Sense of disappointment due to inability to get special counseling and believing that these symptoms will last forever.
Well, I personally had both problems after reading Hassan's books.
The positive effects of such lists are:
1. Help through education about the areas of post-cult adjustment.
2. Relief through learning that these problems are normal and temporal.
Whether the lists will be more beneficial or more harmful probably depends on the way how they were composed and what was the purpose of the author - whether he or she just wanted to gain more clients and make more money like Hassan or whether he or she really wanted to help people like Margaret Singer and Carol Giambalvo.


5 comments:
I never thought of the possibility of suggestion causing the symptoms before. I guess to very suggestible people that could be a result. I had never thought of that. It is sad, though, that some people will make merchandise of those suffering aftereffects of spiritually abusive situations. For me, the checklists were helpful because I realized that the situation I was facing wasn't some unique situation. I felt pretty alone beforehand.
Thanks for your comment.
For me, the checklists were both helpful and damaging. On the one hand, Margaret Singer's list was very helpful for me because I got an idea what areas of my life needed adjustment and how to deal with some post-cult problems.
On the other hand, the first books on mind control that I read were Hassan's two books. He never says that it is normal to have just some symptoms, not all of them. So, reading his books, I got an impression that I had all the symptoms he described and if I did not know that I had some symptoms, it was just because I did not notice them, though I still had them. It led me to trying to find these symptoms.
I noticed that I had certain symptoms only after I read his books, but I did not understand the reason for that until I learned that symptoms can be suggested through reading the symptom checklists. Only then I realized that those symptoms were suggested.
My husband and I were in a Bible-based cult for a number of years (him - 20, me - 7). We have reached the point in our post-cult recovery that we can help others in a similar situation. My husband is a licensed counselor in Texas and we also facilitate a support group for former members of cultic or spiritually abusive groups.
The range of symptoms post-cult are widely varied as are the individual responses of ex-members. I know quite a few former members of my cult who say that they have put the experience totally out of their mind and it does not affect them. These folks have also not been able to reconnect to God and in other ways, appear to be very much affected.
But people deal with things when they can. I work in a psychiatric hospital and we had a 60-year-old man who was admitted after a total melt down. This man was a high school principal, well-educated, raised a normal family, married to the same woman for years, etc. etc. Then one day he was walking down a hallway, and as he tells it, the next thing he knew he was in a strait jacket in a psychiatric hospital. Something in that hallway at that particular moment in time, triggered a memory of childhood sexual abuse. He had never told anyone about it or ever been in counseling. Makes the point about "when you're ready."
Thanks for having a blog where people can become more educated about the realities of cult abuse.
Wendy J. Dunca
Author: I Can't Hear God Anymore:
Life in a Dallas Cult
www.dallascult.com
Wendy, thanks for the comment and kind words about my blog.
Actually, I am still learning about cults and still do not know many things. I do not think it is good to just to try to put away the cult experience. However, I do not think that post-cult recovery should be endless. I also noticed that psychological and spiritual recovery somehow go together.
In my opinion, people may have different times not only when they reach the recovery, but also when they become able to help others. I guess some people do not want to help others even after they are completely recovered, while other people begin to help others before they are recovered themselves.
I realize this comment is late, but I just saw it and have a question for Wendy and her statement that these people who say they have put their cult experience behind them by they have not been able to "connect with God". How would you determine that, Wendy? Is this their own assessment of the situation or is it yours and if it is yours, how do you know that? It's very easy to see things through the lens of our own belief systems, and that includes the post cult recovery belief system that if people say they are fine and are moving on with their lives, they must be suppressing something or in denial of some kind. However, the overwhelming body of evidence on trauma shows the vast majority of people are highly resilient and there is no reason to believe it is any different with ex cult members. Many people do very well without the extensive cult recovery counseling Wendy describes. If Wendy is going to challenge that, I would want to hear about some very specific ways in which she is measuring what she claims is the case. Failing to "reconnect with God" could mean just about anything people want to make it mean. We tend to see what we look for. It's called confirmation bias.
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